Curse

super strokey · Jan 04, 2008, 08:51 PM // 20:51

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Originally Posted by You can't see me

Quotes from Gaile Suggest that the BMP will be made available in the future, when in the first place it was "Understood" that it was a one time offer.

Well until that happens and if something is actually different like say they only need to spend 10 bucks or something then i would be a little miffed but otherwise no biggie to me at all. THe more the merrier I say

netniwk · Jan 04, 2008, 08:54 PM // 20:54

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Originally Posted by X Earth X

If it was a mini like the piggie, you people would still whine.

Seriously, get over it.

Then again,the mini pig is the cutest of all.

fishy go moo · Jan 04, 2008, 08:58 PM // 20:58

how does one get a mini polar bear? where is this wintersday chest? answers pls

willypiggy · Jan 04, 2008, 09:00 PM // 21:00

Heres my opinion
-We shouldn't get be lied to *evil glare towards Gaile*
-Should have a 1/50 Chance of Wintersday chest (Wintersday only)
-Should have a 1/200 Chance of Wintersday Past (Snowman lair)
-Should be able to trade 250/500 (Can't decide on amount) CC shards for one.

If not the 1/50 and 1/200 then make it 1/200 from the wintersday only and have a collector with it.

Saraphim · Jan 04, 2008, 09:01 PM // 21:01

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Originally Posted by netniwk

Then again,the mini pig is the cutest of all.

Indeed, and on my monk the mini pig is not so mini...

Who couldn't love a mini pig when they look the dead spit of Oink, Ankle Biter of the Undead.

lakatz · Jan 04, 2008, 09:02 PM // 21:02

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Originally Posted by Avatar Of Virtue

Just another mini pet... It is not particularly "cool" like say a water djinn or a charr shaman.

That's a matter of opinion, and an opinion I don't happen to share with you.

fishy go moo · Jan 04, 2008, 09:11 PM // 21:11

-.- no one answerd my question anyways

who cares? we dont qq about mini pandas and let me tell you something that mostof you i bet would do.

You: OH BOY I GOT THE ONLY MINI POLAR BEAR HAHA STUPID NOOBS *you deletet your QQ post*
You: WTS MINI POLAR BEAR FOR 700 MORE ECTO THAN YOU BOUGHT IT FOR!
person who bought it: wts mini polar bear for 25 more ecto than he bought it for

gg

manitoba1073 · Jan 04, 2008, 09:16 PM // 21:16

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Originally Posted by Jeremy Untouchable

cant please everyone, I think having rare mini's is ok...

However having a mini thats nigh impossible to get though is very bad.

I did it for 14 hours straight and didnt get 1. Average run was 7 mins.

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Originally Posted by ReSpAwNeD

Should Anet then put Ectos and Rubies and Sapphires and Obsidian Shards in the chest as well? So that people who haven't played for 2 years be able to 'easily' obtain stuff that everyone else has grinded their buns off for? Any and all farming nerfs happened before I obtained my little in game fancies. I didn't even know how to farm when it was all being nerfed away. Would I expect the game to change for me since I don't know how to play it? No, rather I learn how to play it and obtain it instead.

I didn't mean for this to turn into an economy chat or lack their of. I just don't understand why they are making mini's incredibly valuable and why they are making what used to be incredibly valueable worthless. I recently obtained something that was worth a lot of cash out of HoH. I sold it. I heard that before the Zaishen chest I would have gotten 4x more than what I sold it for. As is I had to endure being laughed at for asking the going price for it. Something isn't right with that.

I don't think things should be handed to everyone but when we're talking about a festival item here..... that you didnt' have to win a snowball fight tournament for or anything like that.... c'mon?

You do realize that those do drop from chests also right?

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Originally Posted by leprekan

Sorry, but those weapon skins were actually within reach of anyone that would put the effort into getting one. Those items could be attained by playing PVP or farming to purchase one. They did not have to made so common that my heroes use them.

The ultra rare minis are out of reach of almost EVERYONE in the game. They come with a set number which then makes them priceless. The PvP reward ones they could at least defend with .. the top PvP people worked for them. The polar bear is another story.

Please feel free to explain to me how a "new" person will generate stacks of armbraces to be able to purchase said minis (without duping and Ebay).

This is not about the economy but a reasonable chance at a desireable itemBut it did do a great job of pissing off a large percentage of the fan base! If that was their goal .. job well done is in order!

This pet should be put in the chest of wintersday past. Or was their goal to create another mini that 99.99999999999999999999% of their player base will never have access to?

HINT: Anet dont drive off too many people with gw2 this far out .. they may not come back

Not the best attitude to get people to keep handing over their money for new products. Understandable reaction .. yet still counterproductive.

Putting minis in the game that 99.999999999999999% of your player base will NEVER be able to have is brilliant! What kind of reaction did you really expect? People are sick of not even being able to get a panda now the polar bear is launched for 10 people or less.

You guys go OUT of your way to make weapon skins common to the point they are worthless. Then put minis in the game in such absurdly low numbers that they inspire Ebay purchases. Sorry my IQ of 142 is having a difficult time grasping the sense in that.

Dont forget what we said in the inscriptions thread.

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Originally Posted by pygar

My understanding on farming these days is you are not going to get much of anything cool unless in HM. I am 4/5 of the way thru nightfall, and seriously even though I am near to saving the world I feel like sometimes I should trade in my rangers bow for a parks and rec department trash picker...because thats what kind of treasure is out there "easily for new ppl to get".

New people will never catch up to the wealth of the people who have been around since before the farm nerfs, because the rungs have been torn from the ladder....but despite being a newb and not having sstacks of ectos, I did have access to the polar bear mish, and the mish was easy so if I was just plain luckier, i would have got one....and it would have been such an outrageously uber drop compared to all the other stuff I've gotten I probably would have had a freakin heart attack. I believe the Polar mini, the Z-chests and BMP are equalizers for the economy....finally giving newbs like me a shot at least at gettin something good enough to trade

No...Anet went out of thier way to make these available to those of us who have not been playing for over 2 years, not to make them worthless. Stuff that you say is easily attainable does not appear so easy to people new to the game who do not have piles of ectos and weapons they got before the big farming nerfs. People new to the game do not have a reasonable chance at that stuff at all without some of the new means.

I see people talking talking a lot about "the economy" through all this..... I have to say at this time that "the economy" is my least favorite part of the whole game, and really is the root of people's anger on this thread. "The economy" as I see it right now are a bunch of people that have all the stuff and have nothing better to do but to make a game out of trading it, bragging about how low they can buy stuff and how high they can sell it for, and then a bunch of new people that are frustrated by the fact that they can sweep and clear whole areas and barely have 1 or 2 plat to show for it, let alone have any "valuable" stuff that other players want. The "haves" own the "have nots" in the open market, because it is so hard to get anything of real value early in the game, that the people sellin their stuff in Kamadan are holding all the cards when you go to negotiate a trade with them. Long story short, most of the gripe in this thread is stemmed from either the idea that people desperate to get something really nice missed out again, and on the other hand people who have all the other stuff are pissed because a new shiny toy that everybody else wants but they dont have actually diminishes the "value" of thier stuff.

The game isn't ruining the economy, the economy is ruining the game.

pygar- I'm not really sure where to start on ur posts. But you need to play the game a little longer is a start. The reasons why new people will never catch up to us old timers that have a wealth way more than you can imagine is due to Anerfs own fault. Take the crystalinnes and those styled rare items. They used to drop in PvE long ago then Anerf removed them from PvE and made them PvP only items for a long time till EoTN. Anet caused those to skyrocket by reducing the avaialibilty. (so much for Anerf not controlling the economy and prices huh) Its anet who continually adjusts such things that are ruining the game. By the way the price you was given on ur q9 suarin scythe was rather high. They are fairly easy to get so yeah you should have sold it for 40k. Theres more but I just dont feel like going into more right now .

SirJackassIII · Jan 04, 2008, 09:17 PM // 21:17

You could get the Mini Polar Bear from the Wintersday Chest (!= Chest of Wintersday Past). As the 2 quests are gone, and the chest with it, Polar bears are unavailable until next year.

Chicken of the Seas · Jan 04, 2008, 09:18 PM // 21:18

I'm not sure for the people who say 'who cares?' why they bother to post here in the first place. The reason for this thread, is for those who do care, or are just curious. But yeah, I'm also curious. Its a shame that so few were dropped but I suppose theres always next year?

VanDamselx · Jan 04, 2008, 09:20 PM // 21:20

Whomever told you that about the Saurian Scythe was right. They're very common now, as are many of the weapons in GW:EN. Trust me, they're only going to get more common in the coming months, not less common. Just because you went back to a spot and the scythe didn't drop again does not mean it's going to become uncommon. There are hardly no weapons left that will give you a quick lump of money, that just doesn't exist like it used to. If anything, you should have taken your 40k and ran with it.

Josh · Jan 04, 2008, 09:24 PM // 21:24

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Originally Posted by Mokone

stop with the bear madness imo.

get over it already, and be excited for next year. or gogo save up and buy them. :>

besides, i honestly don't think Gaile could know such a thing, and tbh, i don't think anyone that can tell you cares enough to look it up and share.

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

More info: The miniature has been in the chest the entire festival. 12 days. It was not added, it was only just retrieved towards the end of the Wintersday Festival and for all we know, more may be "out there" but we just haven't heard about them yet. (Edit to add: Let me make that clear. I am not confirming that only Witchblade has this miniature. Not at all. We haven't pulled files to see how many were retrieved, and it's pretty unlikely only one is there.)

Oh, and I fixed the GWW page so that the distinction between the two chests is clear there, as well.

Oh, of course she can't know..?

Inde · Jan 04, 2008, 09:28 PM // 21:28

Stay on topic please, we all ready have a thread for the bmp discussion.

leprekan · Jan 04, 2008, 09:41 PM // 21:41

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Originally Posted by pygar

Oh you bet I'l gripe about wealth distribution...I've never played a game where the treasure was so tight, but on the other hand the nicest stuff sells for comparitive millions. And I am correct, the reason people are mad about the Polar Mini is about the economy. Maybe the next mini's they make, they should make like the BMP rewards that you cant sell.....see how everybody feels about that.

Basicly I am gathering that you are in the category of people I mentioned before, the ones that are angry about the Bear because you dont have it, and it's existence makes your shiny stuff a little less shiny now. You wouldnt even be here griping if you were one of the lucky that got the Bear.

The bear is not about the economy.

Every one of your posts is. You showed it with your Saurian scythe comment about it not being worth what you had hoped. Perhaps you should search for a loot scaling thread ..

Personally, I don't play based on what something is worth but rather what I like. I fall into the category of offensively rich in gw (bought first set of fow the week they fixed the quest so we could). This mini will not change that.

There was NO greed factor involved in my desire at a reasonable chance at obtaining one. If I had been given that chance I would have given it to a friend of mine that does not have time to play like she used to. The mini I like the best is Mallyx .. which I own.

My outrage (seems you think I am mad so we will run with it) is over Anet devaluing items that ALL had a reasonable chance to obtain. Then their brilliant plan of putting minis in the game in such ridiculously low numbers that they were out of reach to 99.999999999999999999% of the player base. If you cannot grasp this ... I shall have to bid you a good day and leave it at that.

pygar · Jan 04, 2008, 09:43 PM // 21:43

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Originally Posted by manitoba1073

pygar- I'm not really sure where to start on ur posts. But you need to play the game a little longer is a start. The reasons why new people will never catch up to us old timers that have a wealth way more than you can imagine is due to Anerfs own fault. Take the crystalinnes and those styled rare items. They used to drop in PvE long ago then Anerf removed them from PvE and made them PvP only items for a long time till EoTN. Anet caused those to skyrocket by reducing the avaialibilty. (so much for Anerf not controlling the economy and prices huh) Its anet who continually adjusts such things that are ruining the game. By the way the price you was given on ur q9 suarin scythe was rather high. They are fairly easy to get so yeah you should have sold it for 40k. Theres more but I just dont feel like going into more right now .

I dont care about the money, I like the nice skins.(if I cashed the scythe in, thats all the money would have been for) The scythe for 30K sounded very strange to me because I've seen Dwayna's Grace priced that high, and its a green, or an easily one to duplicate with a suntouched scythe and mods.IMO 30K for something that stands so far out from the majority of weapons in that category should not go so low, so I kept it....that character will never need another scythe bought for him, so in money terms keeping it was probably worth way more than 30K.

As far as time in the game, i believe in quality, not quantity....I keep getting told oh just wait and you'l get mini's for presents and you'l get to the areas with good treasure.....not buyin it. Waiting for that would probably be around the time my attention span for the game wanes, so " good stuff later on" sounds like "a day late and a dollar short" to me.

Back to the Bear, we havent seen the last of it....it will be available and will be more common....guess we'l just have to play longer and wait for that too

Dante the Warlord · Jan 04, 2008, 09:51 PM // 21:51

Nah the bear won't get more common, but i think, judging by its gold color, that it probably isn't as rare as ghostly hero, and possibly the mallyx drops. I believe that they will place the bear in the wintersday chest in the dungeon. Where it will be farmed and farmed and farmed.... Anyways, gaile apologized and its ok now

pygar · Jan 04, 2008, 09:55 PM // 21:55

@leprakan....not tryin to make ya mad....

Greed is about want, not money....regardless of why you want the bear so bad, it's still the same. I farmed for the bear, didnt get it, but got wintersday goodies by the wheelbarrow-full instead. (plenty to satisfy my greed- so that you understand I'm not a total holier than thou)

My question now is if you have most the treasure in the game and dont have to really farm or trade to have things anymore.....why so concerned with the value? (or de-value?) I know my frustration with the economy comes from scraping whole zones and barely having enough money to buy lockpicks for my next run, let alone shiny rare stuff- Anet changing stuff so the prices or availability come back down to earth make me happy....but if you are already past that then why does it matter if the Bear is super rare and super valuable?

**cosyfiep** · Jan 04, 2008, 10:02 PM // 22:02

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Originally Posted by Dante the Warlord

Nah the bear won't get more common, but i think, judging by its gold color, that it probably isn't as rare as ghostly hero, and possibly the mallyx drops. I believe that they will place the bear in the wintersday chest in the dungeon. Where it will be farmed and farmed and farmed.... Anyways, gaile apologized and its ok now

I was wondering about why the bear is gold....seeing as there are less than a dozen (that we know of)...while there are many of the greens available STILL.

(and when did Gaile appologize??)

(pps this thread got merged??? its very hard to follow now).

Riceboi · Jan 04, 2008, 10:05 PM // 22:05

The only reason why people are not signing it is because candy cane shards mess up their farming loot. lol

Tachyon · Jan 04, 2008, 10:10 PM // 22:10

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Originally Posted by Chrono Re delle Ere

I think that the drop rate is something like 0.003% or something...

Doing 300 runs mean you have nearly 1% chance to get it xD

Wouldn't it be 33,500 runs (at 0.003%) to get a 1.005% chance of a drop?